SSBU/Ness

Overview

Ness

Weight:	94
Spotdodge:The duration and intangibility of this character's on-spot dodges.	25F (3~17F int.)
Air Dodge:The intangibility of this character's air dodges, both neutral and directional.	3~30 int. (Neutral) 3~21 int. (Directional)
Unique Recovery Options:Recovery options that this character may have other than their Up Special.	Floaty Double Jump
Fastest OOS:	N-Air (8F), USmash, Down B (Air) (10F)

Overview

Ness is a character with very quick buttons, great offstage and onstage punish game and some of the safest moves in the game when used correctly. He has a set of great moves and specials but they come with cost of very poor grounded stats but mainly that even if he has great air accel, his fall speed and air speed are very exploitable as he needs to utilize magnet mixups and djc fire landing and autocancels to reduce risks when landing. This may help but there is a limit to how much a Ness player can do with their kit before they have to outplay the opponent to a considerable amount. Ness may not be hard to pickup but he requires a lot of effort to fully master and optimize and that includes in matchup experience and counterplay, not just tech and punish game.

Summary

Ness is a tricky fighter, featuring strong aerials and specials which he uses to pressure the opponent into bad decisions and favorable scrapping situations.
Pros	Cons
Oppressive Punishes: Ness can practically kill and force the opponent into extremely unfavorable situations with his punish game, with many ways to do heavy damage or close out a stock starting from just a few hits Low Commitment: Ness has very generous autocancel windows for his aerials which reduce their risk from a full hop on platform as well as being usable from a shorthop and has decently quick aerials and normals such as DTilt and FTilt as well as a very quick grab. Kill Power and Damage: The options Ness has from a techchase, read or reaction on ledge means he can kill you off a single mistake and not just from long combos, even then Ness' damage output is very solid so you can rack up your kills really quickly. Grabs: Ness' grab grants him high reward at just about any percent, able to combo at low percents, set up edgeguards, and kill at high percents. Mixups: Ness can use diagonal mixups in his pressure thanks to both his vertical and horizontal coverage with his aerials such as NAir. BAir, UAir and DAir. In addition to this, his specials such as PK Thunder 1 allow him to condition and juggle outside of his usual range when the opponent is too high and his other specials such as PK Fire cover diagonal archs in the air and horizontally on the ground while PSI Magnet covers Ness from all sides and with B reverses and Wavebounces and DJC mixups he can cover a lot more arcs thanks to the synergy of these moves when combined with his floatiness and high double jump.	Mediocre Mobility: Ness has great tools but he is very exploitable in the air due to his attributes Limited Recovery: Although the mixups you can do with Ness PK Thunder help a ton, it can lose to certain tools that don't need to contest it and characters who trade and have more range can even cover his double jump and airdodge mixups vertically and diagonally. Camping: Characters that can easily approach Ness and keep him away without contesting him like Mr. Game & Watch, Lucina, Palutena and Shulk. These characters force Ness to play in a less comfortable playstyle to avoid potentially getting checkmated near the corner or offstage by their oppressive tools or to avoid the potential of dying to multiple juggles. Grounded Options: Although a lot of grounded Ness moves aren't bad or too niche, they tend to rely on his poor mobility and moves like uptilt and ftilt are very laggy on whiff and don't fully protect him and dash attack while good has inconsistencies and tends to always force Ness to preempetively space to make it safe to use cause of how far the move is which means the opponent won't have to react to it from too close.

Floaty Double Jump

Ness sports an unusually floaty double jump that gradually accelerates him vertically, rather than a more typical immediate double jump like most of the roster. Ness's floaty jump enables him to catch characters much higher than characters with similar floaty double jumps.

However, it has a few problems. Ness is not able to readily jump away from opponents, either defensively or as a bait, must commit to using a wavebounce double jump cancel special/B-reverse special/Aerial if he wants to change positions more suddenly, and also makes him take longer to reactively juggle or catch high recoveries.

Double Jump Cancel(DJC) Specials

Ness since Smash 64 had the ability to cancel his double jump to utilize for better positioning and momentum into specials like Magnet and PK Fire and allow him to mixup with his double jump in ways other characters can't with DJC fire wavelanding on platforms, flying magnet and this adds to his already solid punish game with his normals and specials. It does have a drawback, the momentum and benefits come at a heavy risk of losing a double jump and losing a valuable resource in disadvantage if hit. It also takes a lot of hard optimization and solid muscle memory to get the most out of the momentum and additional punish opportunities.

Normal Moves

Jab

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Jab 1	2.0	3	19	361/180	-13	N/A
Jab 2	1.5	3	19	361	-13	N/A
Jab 3	4.0	6~7	29	361	-18	N/A

Jab 1

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Jab 2

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Jab 3

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Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun
Jab 1	30/20	25/15	N/A	N/A	3
Jab 2	30/20	25/20	N/A	N/A	3
Jab 3	40	100	N/A	N/A	5

Forward Tilt

/ + (angleable)

DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
10.0	7~10	34	361	-17	N/A

Can be angled up or down
Very strong for a quick FTilt

Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
35		100	N/A	N/A	10

Up Tilt

+

File:SSBU Ness NessUTilt 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Sweetspot	9.0	5~8	28	96	-14	N/A
Sourspot	7.0	5-6	28	96	-16	N/A

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Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Sweetspot	46		113	N/A	N/A	9
Sourspot	46		113	N/A	N/A	7

Down Tilt

+

File:SSBU Ness NessDTilt 0 hb.webm

DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
4.5/3.0	3~4	11	361	-3 to -2/-4 to -3	N/A

Tied with Lucas, R.O.B., Little Mac, and Meta Knight for the second fastest DTilt in the game

Can be canceled into itself starting on frame 6

If the transition of Ness DTilt is done in rapid succession when spaced, it can lock the opponent in their shield when blocked which you can use for mindgames or to reset neutral or potentially get a grab or punish if they mash after you stop.

Will lock opponents who miss a grounded tech, which can confirm into an FSmash

Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
20		3	N/A	N/A	5/4

Dash Attack

while dashing or running

File:SSBU Ness NessDashAttack 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Hit 1	4.0/7.0/3.0	8	39	0/80/45	-26/-24/-27	N/A
Hit 2	2.0	15-16	39	20	-21 to -20	N/A
Hit 3	6.0	23-24	39	70	-10 to -9	N/A

The move is decently active
Massively disjointed, going past ness' hand hurtbox

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Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun
Hit 1	57 FKB/60/80	100/70	N/A	N/A	5/7/4
Hit 2	70 FKB	100	N/A	N/A	3
Hit 3	85	113	N/A	N/A	6

Smash Attacks

Forward Smash

/ +

File:SSBU Ness NessFSmash 0 hb.webm

DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
18.0/20.0/22.0 (27/30/33 charged)	21-22	54	361	charged	N/A

Very strong tipper, one of the strongest FSmashes in the game
Slow reflector, hefty lag and startup, only use this when you are sure if it'll hit or if you're not good enough at doing optimal techchases.

Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
70		67	N/A	N/A	charged

Up Smash

+

The yoyo holds the ledge hostage but loses to all aerials

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Charge Multihits	charged	-	52+		-	N/A
Release	13.0 charged	10-32	52+		-33	N/A

One of his decent out of shield options

Has a multi-hitting hitbox in front of Ness while charging
- This hitbox can hang off of ledge and platforms

Can be used to 2 frame at ledge, but is usually outclassed by D-Smash due to it launching straight up

Loses to most aerials due to low priority

Has a 1.2x charge damage multiplier, much lower than most smash attacks

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Charge Multihits				N/A	N/A	2 charged
Release				N/A	N/A	9 charged

Down Smash

+

The other yoyo when you need to cover ledge facing back

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Charge MultiHits	charged		45+		-	N/A
Release	10.0 charged	12-15, 17-18, 23-25, 31-32	45+		charged	N/A

Has a hitbox while charging the move, which is active behind Ness

Charge hitbox comes out on frame 12 and can rehit every 6 frames

Will hang off of ledge or platforms while charging

Unlike most smash attacks, the charge can only be held for an additional half second instead of two seconds

Launches at a semi-spike angle when released

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Charge MultiHits				N/A	N/A	2 charged
Release				N/A	N/A	7charged

Aerials

Neutral Aerial

Airborne

File:SSBU Ness NessNAir 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Early	11.0	5-12	35	361	-4	N/A
Late	7.0	13-15	35	361	-5	N/A

One of the strongest knockback NAirs in the game
The active frames and hitbox allow this to be a great way to force the opponent away from you, edgeguard and to setup techchases.

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Early	20		100	8	1-4, 26+	4
Late	20		100	8	1-4, 26+	3

Early:

Frame difference on shield recorded from lowest hit

Forward Aerial

Airborne +

An edgeguard and offstage combo followup combination

File:SSBU Ness NessFAir 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Early Multihits	1.5	8-18	39	367	-10	N/A
Late	5.5 (x5)	20-21	39	361	-9	N/A

Ness can abuse this move offstage for continous offstage pressure while covering airdodge or predictable unsafe high or in between recoveries.

When autocancelled onstage it can be looped into itself and be a tad bit safer, FAir

This move trades really badly to strong multihits at the start before the last hit.

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Early Multihits	16		60	12	1-7, 33+	-2					5
Late	32		128	12	1-7, 33+	3

Back Aerial

Airborne +

File:SSBU Ness NessBAir 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Early	15.0	10-11	35	361	-5	N/A
Late	8.0	12-18	35	361	-6	N/A

A very strong kill move and spacing tool due to it's great knockback safety on block.

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Early	16		100	10	1-9, 25+	5
Late	0		100	10	1-9, 25+	4

Up Aerial

Airborne +

File:SSBU Ness NessUAir 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Early Multihits	2.5	8-14 (x2)	33	366	-6	N/A
Late	5.0	15-16	33	73	-5	N/A

One of Ness' safest vertical moves in most situations

Very good coverage for front and back and can be made safer if spaced so the later hits connect shield last as you land.

Extremely active and leads into itself and PSI Magnet

Can be used as a dragdown move to confirm into FTilt or Grab

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Early Multihits	30		100	8	1-7, 34+	2
Late	40		180	8	1-7, 34+	3

Down Aerial

Airborne +

File:SSBU Ness NessDAir 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Early	14.0	18-20	52	270	-7	N/A
Late	12.0	21-24	52		-8	N/A

Very strong spike

Combos into itself and has great followups into Ness' vertical moves and punish tools such as UAir

Very early autocancel window, very safe to fake out with from a full hop on platform

A very strong spike that also has fakeout mixups thanks to it's generous auto cancel window.

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
Early	37		74	12	1-17, 39+	-
Late	30		74	12	1-17, 39+

Late:

values are separated as

Specials

PK Flash

A terrible move that has very decent niches now that it's buffed in Ultimate

File:SSBU Ness NessPKFlash 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
PK Flash	11.027.0 fully charged	40-44117-121 fully charged	61~138	70	-4+4 fully charged	N/A

Can be steered left or right, with the direction Ness is facing dictating its momentum

Hitbox becomes much bigger and the knockback much stronger the longer the button is held

Absurdly safe on shield especially when charged

Extremely plus on hit and the opponent does not get sent upward immediately so you can dtilt between it on max charge or get a free grab both on hit and shield.

Only the explosion can be reflected or absorbed
- It cannot, however, be pocketed by Villager or Isabelle

Catches landings well

Decent stalling move and it's vertical range helps Ness mixup at ledge

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
PK Flash	50		65	N/A	N/A	fully charged

PK Fire

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Since it's a great punish tool, people find this move very annoying
Can be SDI'd out

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Ground	6.0	18~37	55	80	-28-at max range	N/A
Air	6.0	18~37	55	80	-28 at max range	N/A
Pillar	1.0	-	55	68	N/A	N/A

The aerial version has less lag than the grounded version

Quicker on startup and more active than Lucas PK Fire but the grounded version has more lag to compensate

Great punish tool that can be optimized with double jump cancel momentum and other techniques

Grounded version goes straight forward, aerial version goes in a downwards diagonal direction

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun
Ground	30	80	N/A	N/A	3
Air	45	110		N/A	2
Pillar	10	30	N/A	N/A	N/A

PK Thunder

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Projectile

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
PK Thunder 1	11.0/1.0Head/tail	20-139	39 endlag after hit	/Head/Tail	-22
PK Thunder 2 Early	25.0	1-10 after self hit	When travelling along the ground	361	-33	all intangible 1-9/head intangible 10-32
PK Thunder 2	21.0	11~32 after self hit	When travelling along the ground	361	N/A	all intangible 1-9/head intangible 10-32

PK Thunder 1

Consists of a "head" hitbox and a "tail" hitbox

It cannot be clanked with and goes through opponents for the first 10 frames, but afterwards loses to any hitbox that clanks well due to damage and priority or is transcedent.

The head PK Thunder 1 hitbox does way more damage, shield damage, knockback, hitstun on it's own than Lucas PK Thunder 1

Since this is much faster and less laggy of a projetile than Lucas's version of PKT1, it can be used to juggle and condition opponents vertically and it's less reactable generally to move the projectile. This means you can circle it around to catch them into PK Thunder 2 and kill them early or break their shield as a risky read.

The projectile will go through opponents on the first several frames, and afterwards will dissipate if the head collides with an opponent

PK Thunder 2

Triggers when Ness hits himself with the projectile

Active on frame 1 from self-hit

Ridiculously high damage and kill power if the early hitbox connects

This move removes jostling during the active frames so this means Ness cannot be directly pushed when the hitbox is active.

Ness' primary non-airdodge recovery

Does a ton of shield damage for the early hit

High startup (when counting PK Thunder 1) can leave Ness vulnerable against wary opponents

Very punishable on whiff if landed with onstage

Intangibility frames and ludicrous kill power can make challenging Ness's recovery risky, as if an opponent fails, they may just die at a very low percent
- Intangibility can also allow it to completely ignore counter attempts if hit early enough

When it connects with an enemy in the air, the recovery momentum and distance are significantly shortened, this also means it slows down onstage ater connecting.

Interacts differently with walls depending on which side of the stage you are on. Ness is more likely to slide up the left side, while he is more likely to "bonk" off the right side.
- This is most noticeable on stages with vertical walls such as Kalos and Yoshi's

If Ness collides with terrain and "bonks" off, he has a 31-frame window to input another PK Thunder before going into free fall. This allows him to both extend his recovery distance and create new mixups to throw off an opponent's timings.
- This can only be done once before landing or grabbing ledge

The early hitbox triggers special zoom

Early hit will also come out immediately upon colliding with terrain, although this will most likely never come into play as Ness's PK Thunder 2 is a strong single hit compared to Lucas's multi-hitting version

It grabs ledge backwards way after the move is finished.

If the projectile is absorbed, reflected, or otherwise destroyed during startup, Ness will go into free fall

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun
PK Thunder 1	/	/			4/10
PK Thunder 2 Early	83	80	24	N/A	22
PK Thunder 2	45	70	24	N/A	18

Down B

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Aids in dealing with certain characters' energy projectiles and a versatile advantage tool

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Ground	4.0	Hitbox 7-12, Absorb 7+, Hitbox pulses/hits again every 20 frames	24	361	-18 to -13	N/A
Aerial	4.0	Hitbox 7-12, Absorb 7+, Hitbox pulses/hits again every 20 frames	24	361	-18 to -13	N/A
Windbox End	0.0	1-9	24	361	-7 to 1	N/A

One of his most versatile combo tools

It can loop and combo vertically and lead into his aerials or vice versa

It can also lead to high damaging combos and zero to deaths with a double jump cancel but requires higher execution to master.

Very low lag and is safer on release as it pushes the opponent away.

Heals a maximum of 30% per projectile, regardless of how strong the absorbed energy projectile is

If you absorb on the ground you can immediately cancel into a spotdodge, roll or jump which immediately takes you out of the magnet animation.

Can be used for movement mixups and to stall

Thanks to the absorb, important pressure tools of characters such as Snake, Pikachu, Mario and Sora have to be used much more carefully due to the reward Ness gets while also reducing the threat of energy projectiles which makes the matchups considerably easier.

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun
Ground	11FKB	100	N/A	N/A	2
Aerial	11FKB	100	N/A	N/A	2
Windbox End	11FKB	100	N/A	N/A	2

Ground:

This move pulses which means it moves the character and hitbox throughout the move's duration.

Aerial:

This move pulses which means it moves the character and hitbox throughout the move's duration.

Grabs & Throws

Grab

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Standing	N/A	6-7	37	N/A	N/A	N/A
Dash	N/A	9-10	45	N/A	N/A	N/A
Pivot	N/A	10-11	40	N/A	N/A	N/A
Pummel	1.3	1	19	N/A	N/A	N/A

Standing Grab

Ness' fastest grab, usable out of shield somewhat cause of how quick and it is and it has low lag.

Dash Grab ( or > )

Pivot Grab ( > + )

Ness' longest range grab, this grabs considerably further that it works to catch unsafe landings.

Pummel ( > )

Used for unstaling moves and throws

Hit / Hitbox	Base KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun
Standing	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	-N/A
Dash	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
Pivot	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
Pummel	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A

Forward Throw

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File:SSBU Ness NessFThrow hb.webm

DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
11.0	27	52	45	N/A

Used to setup for edgeguards when BThrow has low knockback at earlier percents thanks to very high base knockback

Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
120		10	N/A	N/A	N/A

Back Throw

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Please just DI In and pray

File:SSBU Ness NessBThrow hb.webm

DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
11.0	27	52	135	N/A

Arguably the best horizontal kill throw in the game, kills really well regardless of position due to very high knockback scaling

Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
15		130	N/A	N/A	N/A

Up Throw

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File:SSBU Ness NessUThrow hb.webm

DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
12.0	36	55	90	N/A

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Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
105		40	N/A	N/A	N/A

Down Throw

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D-Throw > FAir is fake against most characters

File:SSBU Ness NessDThrow hb.webm

DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
0.5 (x4), 1.5	6-17, 26-29	49	361	N/A

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Base KB	Fixed KB	KB Growth	Landing Lag	Autocancel Window	Shieldstun	Shieldlag	Bonus Shield Damage	Direct Hitbox	Clang ReboundThe type of interaction when a hitbox interacts with another hitbox Rebound interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, causing the rebound property if the hitbox doesn't deal over 9.0% damage than the opposing hitbox it is clanking with. Trample interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't cause the rebound property. Transcendent cannot interact with other hitboxes. No Stop interacts by clanking with other hitboxes, but doesn't stop being active. Unique to Mii Gunner's Grenade Launch.	Rehit	Hitlag Multiplier	SDI Multiplier
0		100	N/A	N/A	N/A

Floor Attacks

Ledge Attack

File:SSBU Ness NessLedgeAttack 0.png

File:SSBU Ness NessLedgeAttack 0 hb.webm

Hit / HitboxWhich hit timing (such as early or late), or hitbox (such as sweetspot or sourspot) of this move that the data to the right is referring to.	DamageThe raw damage percent value(s) of the listed move that the game calculates damage and staling from.	Frames ActiveThe frames of this move where there are active hitboxes that can affect opponents.	Total FramesThe total number of animation frames for this move. Landing lag for applicable moves will be listed under "Additional Data".	AngleThe launch angle of this move. 0 degrees is directly away from the attacking character, and this value angles up counter-clockwise.	Shield SafetyThe difference between the attacker's endlag and the period that the opponent is in shieldstun. This frame advantage value is based off the assumption that the very first active frame connects with the opponent's shield.	ProtectionAny kind of body part intangibility, invulnerability, or armor that the move has.
Ledge Attack	9.0	22-24	56	45	-24 to -22	all intangible 1-24

One of the worst and lowest ranged ledge attacks in the game. Very unsafe on shield and it does not hit very far at all, be mindful of that when using ledge attack.