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=== Combo Theory === |
=== Combo Theory === |
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A combo is divided into 3 parts: a '''starter''', a '''filler''' and an '''ender'''. The following will point out which moves fills which roles, and the reason why |
A combo is divided into 3 parts: a '''starter''', a '''filler''' and an '''ender'''. The following will point out which moves fills which roles, and the reason why |
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==== Starters ==== |
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* <big>'''{{grab|Grab}}'''</big> |
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Getting a grab as Dark Pit generally means you'll net a combo that'll send the opponent offstage. The main combo throw is {{grab|Dthrow}}, but it is also possible to combo from {{grab|Fthrow}} or {{grab|Bthrow}} at very low percents. Be aware that these two choices are very suboptimal compared to {{grab|Dthrow}} |
Getting a grab as Dark Pit generally means you'll net a combo that'll send the opponent offstage. The main combo throw is {{grab|Dthrow}}, but it is also possible to combo from {{grab|Fthrow}} or {{grab|Bthrow}} at very low percents. Be aware that these two choices are very suboptimal compared to {{grab|Dthrow}} |
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* <big>'''{{tilt|Utilt}}'''</big> |
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It's a somewhat niche starter, but it can still do some stuff. The main thing he'll combo into is {{aerial|Nair}} and {{aerial|Uair}}. However, on Pokémon Stadium 2, it is possible to repeatedly look a tech situation with the first hit of {{tilt|Utilt}}. This only works on a handful characters, and it isn't ideal, but it's still a good way to get some free damage. If the opponent techs, Dark Pit get a free {{aerial|Uair}}. It's not a very rewarding starter though, so don't rely on it too much |
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It's a somewhat niche starter, but it can still do some stuff. The main thing he'll combo into is {{aerial|Nair}} and {{aerial|Uair}}. However, on Pokémon Stadium 2, it is possible to repeatedly look a tech situation with the first hit of {{tilt|Utilt}}. This only works on a handful characters, and it isn't ideal, but it's still a good way to get some free damage. If the opponent techs, Dark Pit get a free {{aerial|Uair}} |
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* <big>'''{{tilt|Dtilt}}'''</big> |
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It's not a very rewarding starter though, so don't rely on it too much |
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{{tilt|Dtilt}} is a move you'll throw out pretty often in neutral as Dark Pit, so it's good to know how to convert out of it. Usually leads to combos at low to mid percents |
{{tilt|Dtilt}} is a move you'll throw out pretty often in neutral as Dark Pit, so it's good to know how to convert out of it. Usually leads to combos at low to mid percents |
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* <big>'''{{aerial|Nair}}'''</big> |
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{{aerial|Nair}} is Dark Pit's best move, and as such you'll throw it out a low in neutral (and in general). It's easy to combo off of this move and to turn any stray hit into a big combo |
{{aerial|Nair}} is Dark Pit's best move, and as such you'll throw it out a low in neutral (and in general). It's easy to combo off of this move and to turn any stray hit into a big combo |
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* <big>'''{{aerial|Bair}}'''</big> |
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{{aerial|Bair}} is Dark Pit's main poke, so learning to convert off of it is essential to becoming threatening in neutral. Ideally, Dark Pit wants to combo into {{grab|Grab}}, but against airborne opponents, he can settle for a {{aerial|Nair}} and continue from there. Ideally, Dark Pit don't want to use it as a starter, because it's also his main kill move, but it's also really good as a poke so you still have to learn those combos |
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{{aerial|Bair}} is Dark Pit's main poke, so learning to convert off of it is essential to becoming threatening in neutral. Ideally, Dark Pit wants to combo into {{grab|Grab}}, but against airborne opponents, he can settle for a {{aerial|Nair}} and continue from there |
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* <big>'''{{aerial|Dair}}'''</big> |
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Ideally, Dark Pit don't want to use it as a starter, because it's also his main kill move, but it's also really good as a poke so you still have to learn those combos |
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{{aerial|Dair}} is usually used at higher percents, when the spike hitbox becomes positive enough on hit to combo into other (interesting) moves. The best option is to combo into {{grab|Grab}}, but if the opponent starts to be sent upwards, Dark Pit can go for any {{smash|Smash}} attacks or {{aerial|Uair}}, depending on the percentages. The side hitboxes can lead into combos at lower percents. Usually, Dark Pit combos this hit into an aerial, usually {{aerial|Nair}} |
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{{aerial|Dair}} is usually used at higher percents, when the spike hitbox becomes positive enough on hit to combo into other (interesting) moves. The best option is to combo into {{grab|Grab}}, but if the opponent starts to be sent upwards, Dark Pit can go for any {{smash|Smash}} attacks or {{aerial|Uair}}, depending on the percentages |
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The side hitboxes can lead into combos at lower percents. Usually, Dark Pit combos this hit into an aerial, usually {{aerial|Nair}} |
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==== Fillers ==== |
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The table below shows different combo strings commonly used in Pit combos. It is possible for a combo to contain more than one of these strings |
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==== Enders ==== |
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This section will only list the most common combo enders Pit uses in his combos |
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Generally used when the opponent is pretty far away, and you don't have anything else that'll reach the opponent at this distance. Somewhat niche and subpar ender, but it still gives Dark Pit stage control, and allows him to {{tt|juggle|Hit an opponent while they're trying to land on the stage}} his opponent |
Generally used when the opponent is pretty far away, and you don't have anything else that'll reach the opponent at this distance. Somewhat niche and subpar ender, but it still gives Dark Pit stage control, and allows him to {{tt|juggle|Hit an opponent while they're trying to land on the stage}} his opponent |
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* <big>'''{{smash|Usmash}}'''</big> |
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Ranging from CPU combos to kill confirms, {{smash|Usmash}} is a very valuable combo ender at high percents. Please don't use this at low percents, you're needlessly staling one of your kill moves for a suboptimal combo. This means stop doing {{grab|Dthrow}} > {{smash|Usmash}}. Please, I'm begging you. |
Ranging from CPU combos to kill confirms, {{smash|Usmash}} is a very valuable combo ender at high percents. Please don't use this at low percents, you're needlessly staling one of your kill moves for a suboptimal combo. This means stop doing {{grab|Dthrow}} > {{smash|Usmash}}. Please, I'm begging you. |
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* <big>'''{{aerial|Nair}}'''</big> |
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{{aerial|Nair}} is definitely not the best combo ender at Dark Pit's disposal, but sometimes you just don't have anything else. It still leaves Pit with good positioning. Try to not end combos with {{aerial|Nair}} if possible |
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Ideally, Pit wants to end his combos with {{aerial|Bair}} at mid to high percents in order to either kill or at least gain stage control. At lower percents, it's usually not worth going for since Pit's staling one of his rare kill moves for no particular reason |
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As an ender, {{aerial|Fair}} is just a worse, lazier version of {{aerial|Bair}}. Ideally, Pit wants to avoid using this, but it is still often used, due to it giving good positioning. Not really optimal, but still way better than nothing |
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{{aerial|Uair}} is a good combo ender because it lets Dark Pit at a position to freely {{tt|juggle|Hit an opponent while they're trying to land on the stage}} his opponents. Usually used mid stage, when {{aerial|Bair}} won't kill or send the opponent offstage |
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Ideally, Dark Pit wants to end his combos with {{aerial|Bair}} at mid to high percents in order to either kill or at least gain stage control. At lower percents, it's usually not worth going for since Pit's staling one of his rare kill moves for no particular reason |
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{{aerial|Nair}} is definitely not the best combo ender at Dark Pit's disposal, but sometimes you just don't have anything else. It still leaves Dark Pit with good positioning. |
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{{aerial|Uair}} is a good combo ender because it lets Dark Pit at a position to freely {{tt|juggle|Hit an opponent while they're trying to land on the stage}} his opponents. Usually used mid stage, when {{aerial|Bair}} won't kill or send the opponent offstage |
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As an ender, {{aerial|Fair}} is just a worse, lazier version of {{aerial|Bair}}. Ideally, you want to avoid using this, but it is still often used, due to it giving good positioning. Not really optimal, but still way better than nothing |
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Revision as of 09:16, 31 August 2022
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This character is an Echo Fighter. Some information may have been copied from their counterpart's page, which can be found here. Feel free to edit the page if you notice any overlap between the two characters (wrong name, wrong data...) |
Combos
General Notes
Because Smash Ultimate's combos are very freeform, the following strings aren't full combos (unless stated otherwise). Think of a Smash combo as a LEGO building, in which you assemble different strings of moves in order to achieve a big combo. It is important to learn Dark Pit's combo theory, moreso than for other characters because a lot of his combos are DI dependant. Also, a few things:
- Rage isn't taken into account for percentages
- Platform-dependant combo extensions won't be listed for simplicity's sake
Example Combos
These combos are there for people who are either beginners in the game or are just starting out with Dark Pit. These are in no way optimal or set in stone but should still be good for starting out
Good combo done from a grab or a random Nair hit in neutral that sends the opponent offstage from anywhere on the stage. Doesn't work when near the ledge.
Against DI up, replace Fair > Dash Attack with Dair > Nair.
Good Dark Pit combo that nets good damage and sends the opponent offstage (unless you're facing away from the ledge, in which case you just reset neutral).
This combo does not work at 0%!! It works at around 10 to 20%. Still, it makes it a great opportunity to rob someone out of their double jump if they use it a lot to escape combos.
Basic combo from a grounded poke. Doesn't work when near the ledge.
Against DI up, replace Fair > Dash Attack with Dair > Nair.
Very important confirm for Dark Pit, since it lets you rack up lots of damage from a safe button to throw out in neutral. Follow up with the throw combo of your choice.
Combo Theory
A combo is divided into 3 parts: a starter, a filler and an ender. The following will point out which moves fills which roles, and the reason why
- Grab
Getting a grab as Dark Pit generally means you'll net a combo that'll send the opponent offstage. The main combo throw is Dthrow, but it is also possible to combo from Fthrow or Bthrow at very low percents. Be aware that these two choices are very suboptimal compared to Dthrow
- Utilt
It's a somewhat niche starter, but it can still do some stuff. The main thing he'll combo into is Nair and Uair. However, on Pokémon Stadium 2, it is possible to repeatedly look a tech situation with the first hit of Utilt. This only works on a handful characters, and it isn't ideal, but it's still a good way to get some free damage. If the opponent techs, Dark Pit get a free Uair. It's not a very rewarding starter though, so don't rely on it too much
- Dtilt
Dtilt is a move you'll throw out pretty often in neutral as Dark Pit, so it's good to know how to convert out of it. Usually leads to combos at low to mid percents
- Nair
Nair is Dark Pit's best move, and as such you'll throw it out a low in neutral (and in general). It's easy to combo off of this move and to turn any stray hit into a big combo
- Bair
Bair is Dark Pit's main poke, so learning to convert off of it is essential to becoming threatening in neutral. Ideally, Dark Pit wants to combo into Grab, but against airborne opponents, he can settle for a Nair and continue from there. Ideally, Dark Pit don't want to use it as a starter, because it's also his main kill move, but it's also really good as a poke so you still have to learn those combos
- Dair
Dair is usually used at higher percents, when the spike hitbox becomes positive enough on hit to combo into other (interesting) moves. The best option is to combo into Grab, but if the opponent starts to be sent upwards, Dark Pit can go for any Smash attacks or Uair, depending on the percentages. The side hitboxes can lead into combos at lower percents. Usually, Dark Pit combos this hit into an aerial, usually Nair
Fillers
The table below shows different combo strings commonly used in Pit combos. It is possible for a combo to contain more than one of these strings
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Nair > Fair | Low/Mid | Dash Grab, Dash Attack, Nair | The listed follow-ups are only possible at low percents |
Nair > Nair | Low | Dash Attack, Fair, Dair | Following up becomes way harder on DI up |
Dair > Nair | Low/Mid | - | Possible follow-ups on platforms |
Nair > Dair | Low | Nair, Uair | Mostly used against DI up |
Landing Fair > Dtilt | Any | Nair, Fair, Bair | Follow up with a standard Dtilt combo. Rising Fair also works on certain platforms |
- Dash Attack
Generally used when the opponent is pretty far away, and you don't have anything else that'll reach the opponent at this distance. Somewhat niche and subpar ender, but it still gives Dark Pit stage control, and allows him to juggleHit an opponent while they're trying to land on the stage his opponent
- Usmash
Ranging from CPU combos to kill confirms, Usmash is a very valuable combo ender at high percents. Please don't use this at low percents, you're needlessly staling one of your kill moves for a suboptimal combo. This means stop doing Dthrow > Usmash. Please, I'm begging you.
- Nair
Nair is definitely not the best combo ender at Dark Pit's disposal, but sometimes you just don't have anything else. It still leaves Pit with good positioning. Try to not end combos with Nair if possible
- Fair
As an ender, Fair is just a worse, lazier version of Bair. Ideally, Pit wants to avoid using this, but it is still often used, due to it giving good positioning. Not really optimal, but still way better than nothing
- Bair
Ideally, Dark Pit wants to end his combos with Bair at mid to high percents in order to either kill or at least gain stage control. At lower percents, it's usually not worth going for since Pit's staling one of his rare kill moves for no particular reason
- Uair
Uair is a good combo ender because it lets Dark Pit at a position to freely juggleHit an opponent while they're trying to land on the stage his opponents. Usually used mid stage, when Bair won't kill or send the opponent offstage
Kill Confirms
The table below contains the most common and reliable kill confirms Dark Pit has at his disposal
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Dthrow > RARReverse Aerial Rush Bair | 60 ~ 160 | Out, up, down | - |
Dthrow > IDJInstant Double Jump Uair | 90 ~ 115 | In | DI mixup for Fthrow at the ledge |
Utilt > IDJ Uair | 95 ~ 115 | All | IDJ makes it kill earlier |
Dtilt > Bair | 70 ~ 85 | All | Stops working on DI out at higher percents |
Landing Nair > Dsmash | 90 ~ 140 | All | Somewhat inconsistent, due to the nature of Dark Pit's dragdown combos |
Landing Fair > Dsmash | 130+ | All | - |
Dair spike > Usmash | 75 ~ 95 | All | Trueness depends on how close you land on the ground |
Dair spike > Fsmash | 50 ~ 60 | All | Same as above. Make sure you are facing towards/near the ledge before going for it |
Dair spike > Uair | 105 ~ 125 | All | Use this when Usmash won't connect |
Dair spike > side-B | 80 ~ 120 | All | Use this when Usmash won't kill |
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